People who have committed a certain sin ought to be dead; I am a person who has committed that sin therefore I ought to be dead. Thus is the logic of a suicidal mind. Lester, Szasz, & others argue the sinner should always be allowed to kill him/herself. Shneidman, Leenaars, & others do not agree. Once one knows the suicidal mind, it is easy to conclude the suicidal mind is not rational. The first premise is false. Therefore, the question is not “is suicide rational?” but “what is suicide?” Is it ia good death if the sinner kills him/herself because he/she committed a certain sin? (24 refs.)